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on avoiding the fiscal cliff, john boehner has a press conference at 11:30 after his meeting with tim geithner. connell: we will speak with -- see what the speaker has to say. with all this back and forth, a decent amount of speculation that a deal is starting to take shape. look at the reporting from politico and they put numbers to its save a framework looks like this. taxes for revenue would rise by $1.2 trillion. families making them to $50,000 would see higher taxes which we have been expecting and entitlement programs would be cut by $400 billion, most coming for medicare and, quote, end of war savings peter barnes and others reported many times as being dubious because they counted the previous budget you have another trillion plus in cuts. that according to politico is the deal, steve murphy is a former campaign manager for dick gephardt and in d.c. today. from the democratic of view anything i just say or just said sound unreasonable? >> i don't think it sounds reasonable except i don't think it is enough. i don't think either party is being realistic about the enormity of the debt an
in order to avoid going over the fiscal cliff? john boehner's already $800 billion in increased tax revenue, not necessarily raising the marginal tax rate on the wealthy, but capping deductions, limiting loopholes, are you with the speaker of the house on that? >> unfortunately, wolf, the policies of president obama have already taken us over the cliff. if you meet with businesses like i do all the time, they've already paired back plans for next year anticipating what's going to happen. we can fix this christmas eve if we want, but we've already hurt the economy and job growth. >> are you with boehner? >> i'm not with boehner. this government doesn't need anymore money. this country needs less government. we're going to have historic levels of revenue to the government this year. >> everyone's taxes are going up at the end of the year if there's no deal. >> we have already offered to extend current tax rates. that's what we should have done six months ago until we could come to some agreement, some compromise on tax reform. >> when you say compromise, where are you ready to compromise as f
's a deal struck on the fiscal cliff. i think boehner is trying to exert control. leaders try to exert control before these votes happen. sometimes weeks before. so this was a warning to house conservatives, that if you go against leadership and a deal is struck, there are going to be consequences. >> yeah. so chuck todd, let's talk about the other side of pennsylvania avenue. the president of the united states yesterday speaking with john boehner. and they wisely decided not to characterize that phone call, thank god for the sake of america. and the world. also, you had tim geithner. good god. >> he didn't say anything he hasn't said before. >> geithner on the sunday shows was saying oh, yeah, the republicans are going to back down. they're going to cower in the corner, tremble and whatever. and then yesterday he said we're going to go over the cliff if republicans don't do what we want. i'm curious, what's the white house attitude right now? are they willing to go over the cliff? is geithner right? >> are they willing to go over the cliff? i guess they are, but they also don't believ
of speaker boehner's proposal to avert the fiscal cliff? >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks about $800 billion worth of revenues but says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> reporter: he won't agree to eliminate a tax deduction for contributions to charity. >> every hospital and university and nonfor profit agency across the country would find themselves on the verge of collapse. so that's not a realistic option. >> reporter: but the president didn't say all this to speaker boehner. he said it in an interview on bloomberg tv. the last time the two men spoke was almost a week ago. president obama is focused on the stalemate with congress over averting the fiscal cliff, but he's just not talking to house republicans about it. at the white house, he discussed the issue with a bipartisan group of governors. >> i know that the president wants a deal and he didn't try to handicap it. >> reporter: earlier this week, he told so-called middle class americans on twitter, keep pressure on congress. he
as democrats and republicans dig in and ramp up the rhetoric on the fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner and senate majority leader harry reid trading jabs before the cameras on capitol hill. >> going over the fiscal cliff is serious business. and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it. and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> speaker boehner made very clear at his press conference that he thinks the ball is in your court and the president's court. he says democrats have got to get series about spending cuts. where is the disconnect? >> i don't understand his brain so you should ask him. okay? >> reid making those comments to our own kate bolduan. i'm joined by dan lothian. dan, we're learning more about the white house plan to deal with the fiscal cliff. break it down for us. >> reporter: right. this is the plan that secretary -- treasury secretary timothy geithner took up to capitol hill yesterday. it calls for $1.6 trillion in tax increases over a ten-year period more than republicans had anticipated. in addition to that, $400 billion in spending cuts that will
the looming fiscal cliff. but not to each other. the president was making his case on the road while boehner was dismissing the white house proposal as a joke. cnn senior congressional correspondent dana bash joins us live from the capital. dana, what's the latest? >> reporter: well, joe, it turns out he laughed at geithner when he proposed the white house package which includes $1.6 trillion in tax increases. instead, today mcconnell floated to "the wall street journal" the idea of revenues by medicare and eligibility age, but democrats are very dug in. they say anything that doesn't include tax increases on the wealthy is a nonstarter. a day after getting a white house proposal the republicans greeted as a joke, they're not laughing. >> now, the white house took three weeks to respond with any kind of a proposal and much to my disappointment it wasn't a serious one. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner rushed to the cameras to respond to the president's campaign-style event at a suburban philadelphia toy factory where mr. obama tried to rally support for maintaining the bush-era tax rat
." >>> coming up in our next hour, we have the very latest on the fiscal cliff negotiations including new reaction from speaker boehner and senate majority leader reid after their meetings with secretary geithner on capitol hill today. >>> plus, a live report from the white house on president obama and mitt romney's lunch meeting in the private residence. >>> we are following developing news. former president george h.w. bush has been hospitalized. we'll update you on his condition. >>> plus, we are just now an hour away from an historic u.n. vote on the palestinian's bid for statehood. israel's vice prime minister joins me live. now we need a little bit more... [ male announcer ] at humana, we understand the value of quality time and personal attention. which is why we are proud to partner with health care professionals who understand the difference that quality time with our members can make... that's a very nice cake! ohh! [ giggles ] [ male announcer ] humana thanks the physicians, nurses, hospitals, pharmacists and other health professionals who helped us achieve the highest average
with sending the economy over the fiscal cliff. no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> speaker boehner doesn't want to propose spending cuts, so now he's trying to pressure the white house to do it. >> there's been no serious discussion of spending cuts so far. and unless there is, there's a real danger of going off the fiscal cliff. >> a reporter asked senate majority leader harry reid about speaker boehner's comments. >> he says that democrats have got to get serious about cuts, spending cuts. where is the disconnect then? >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him. okay? >> and, of course, another day more republicans dumping grover norquist. among nebraska and is iowa republicans, most of them told the world herald this week they could support a broad budget agreement, even if the deal ends up including higher tax revenues. i won't have a problem with letting those tax rates go up, representative mike simpson said to reuters. but new york congressman chris gibson found the most creative way out of
. this comes as you know we're locked in these negotiations over the so-called fiscal cliff at a time when john boehner is trying to get as much discipline and needing as many team players as possible. so consider this a message that was sent not to just four members but the rest of the republican caucus. >> i want to play another excerpt of the president's interview he conducted a short time ago where he was asked about sitting down and more face-to-face meetings with speaker boehner. let's play it. >> speaker boehner was here at the white house last night for a christmas party. the two of you didn't even speak. what's it going to take to get the two of you in a room to hash this out? >> speaker boehner and i speak frequently, and i think the issue right now. >> when will you sit down in a room? >> i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. >> mark, is the president right? is the issue -- the visual of them being at the holiday party and giving each other the side eye and not talking is in itself hum humorous, but you do wonder about the dynamics behind the scenes
television moments ago, getting parts of this interview says speaker boehner's proposal on the fiscal cliff is still out of balance. that is a quote the president has given about the letter and the proposal that you sent to capitol hill. realistically, when do you need to get a deal done to avoid the country from going off the fiscal cliff? know there is limited days. >> yes. jenna: when does an actual deal have to be done so it gets through those logistical processes we know need to be done in both the house and the senate? >> the sooner we can get a deal the better. speaker boehner, as i said, he, the day after the election, said, okay, we'll put tax revenue on the table. let's start the negotiations. you know this can be done. president reagan and tip o'neill back in the early '80s, they negotiated a deal to save social security and address tax reform and the other entitlement programs, the spending --. jenna: if i could. reagan famously said trust but verify. >> yes. jenna: why should we trust you? why should we trust lawmakers in office now they can do this? >> because i would say we'r
respondespo -- >> today, president obama and john boehner spoke by phone about the fiscal cliff negotiations, but there is no progress. they still have a stand off over the rates. the president still wants to raise rates on the top 2% of americans. the speaker is not moving on that position. this comes on the same day that secretary geithner made it clear in language they have not used before, just how far they're willing to go in the administration to stand by those terms. >> is the administration prepared today go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there is no agreement without those rates going up on the top 2%. and they all get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income. >> reporter: so wolf, it's a step forward that they're talking, but in essence, where we stand right now, it's still a stalemate. >> any indication that the vice president, secretary of treasury, others are talking with top people on capitol hill? meeting face to face and going through these items line by line? >> reporter: my understanding is that the white house is not going to start negotiating the details unt
charming, engaging, how winning is that demeanor, is it at all, in dealing with john boehner and the fiscal cliff? >> i think they're kind of past all that at this point, right? i mean, i don't think the demeanor's really going to help at this point. they've been through this -- they've done this dance before. most of the players who are involved in this negotiation are the same players that were involved in the negotiation that happened in the summer of 2011 over the debt ceiling. and so these guys know each other pretty well by now, and i think the president and john boehner, even after all of that, still have a reasonable working relationship. but i think that the president's people have made a very clear calculation, they decided that they tried a way of negotiating in 2011 which was to be what they think of as reasonable. to come in and say, put your cards on the table. this is where we think a good deal will end up. $3 in spending cuts for $1 in tax increases. here's a bunch of medicare cuts on sbilentitlement. show your hand. this is what the president's willing to do. meet me here i
the fiscal cliff. mr. obama and house speaker john boehner took a step yesterday, speaking about the standoff on the phone. i guess at least they weren't texting, right? while the details of their chat remain private, both men continued to talk past each other in public. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2%. >> there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes, and have the same people pay more, more of their money to the federal government, without raising tax rates, which we believe will harm our economy. >> treasury secretary tim geithner also weighed in yesterday saying the president is willing to allow the nation to go over the cliff if republicans don't agree to raise taxes on the wealthy. >>> we are learning new details about colorado's shooting suspect james holmes now that thousands of e-mails in the case have been released. messages indicate holmes may have had a brief romantic relationship in the days before the tragedy. we have learned that in early june, holmes began specifically talking and fantasizing about killing a lot of people. his psychiatrist was so worri
and the prospects apparently of any sort of deal about what to do about this fiscal cliff we've been talking so much about and balance between revenue growth and spending cuts. speaker boehner is saying that there is a lack of recognition in his opinion by the white house about how serious the spending problem that we do have in this country. he wants the spending cuts on the table. charles payne is with us from the fox business network. he is ceo of w not specific about what spending cuts and where they would come from, charles. in an ideal world where would we cut spending? >> in ideal world you cut spending and sacred cows. it would have to be medicare, social security and medicaid and it would have to be series of reforms made. now listen, we've seen this has gone on for a long time, jenna. the notion that perhaps we would do dramatic tax increases now with the promise of spending cuts 10 to 20 years down road, i'm sure that was the first salvo but republicans certainly drawn a line there. because that never materialized. the general public knows this. i think the stock market knows
-span every day at 7:00 a.m. eastern. our coverage of the fiscal cliff includes speaker john boehner and minority leader nancy pelosi. that is coming up in a little more than 10 minutes. first, though, president obama speaks to members of the business roundtable about the economy. he told the c.e.o.'s that he would not negotiate as a precondition for raising the borrowing limit. because of technical problems, we are only able to show you part of his speech. >> we at the business roundtable are grateful to both the electricity -- for the engagement we have had with you and members of your team. listen, i know your team has really reached out significantly over the last few months to many people in this room. and i know personally from my work in the last three years on the export council that the outreach to us is again you in and we know you are seeking solutions that was outlined very sincerely this morning when we met with jack and the rest of the team. sense of purpose and commitment from us as we engage with you. there aren't a lot of wall flowers in here and eager for a two-way
will go over the fiscal cliff come january 1st, one theory, will make it easier for john boehner and republicans for that matter to vote for higher taxes on the healthy. in other words they would be voting to cut taxes for 98% of americans while allowing them to stay where they are. because remember, after january 1st those bush tax cuts expire. they rise for everybody. again, there are conspiracy theories everywhere. you saw the hardball offer put forward by the white house late in the week on thursday when tim geithner went up to congress and presented it to republicans. mitch mcconnell laughed out loud. $1.6 trillion in new revenues. only $600 billion in cutting spending. this is not what.republicans had in mind. but john boehner can rail against it which will make it easier for john boehner to sell to his conference. i think it's far fetched. i don't think either of these men, president obama or john boehner, want to see this country go off the fiscal cliff. there's obviously too much at stake not only politically but for the lives and welfare of americans. i think that's for
of joy reid and frank bruni of the "new york times." >>> the fiscal cliff negotiations continue to play out like greek theater. entering from stage right, speaker john boehner issued a counter offer yesterday. from stage left a chorus of democrats who are shocked and outraged. the white house told boehner to, quote, get serious. nancy pelosi called it another assault on the middle class, seniors and our future. and senate na jorty leader harry reid took to the floor this morning. >> republicans again sided with the wealthy of this country. it won't pass. >> the gop proposal calls for $600 billion in entitlement reform, including raising the medicare age. it brings $200 billion from social security, adjusting the inflation rate and raises $800 billion in new tax revenue by reforming the tax cut and closing loopholes. the plan rejects specifically raising tax rates, but it is significant that john boehner has gotten his entire leadership team, including congressman eric cantor, kevin mccarthy and even former vice presidential nominee and budget hawk paul ryan to publicly sign thei
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the so-called fiscal cliff. that steep across the board spending cut and tax increase scheduled to hit in just 33 days. in a scathing assessment today, the speaker of the house john boehner says there's been no substantive progress on a deal. need to realize there can be no deal without tax rates going up for top earners. let's go live to our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin. she's got more on the latest developments. tough talk from both sides, jessica. >> reporter: tough talk and some bright lines, wolf. on the same day that treasury secretary tim geithner went to capitol hill to meet with both democrats and republicans to talk about these negotiations, there is tense body language and tough words on both sides of pennsylvania avenue. they're starting to sound dug-in on capitol hill. >> all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it needs leadership. >> reporter: at the white house. >> this is available not just here but to everyone in the world who has an internet connection. and i know things are done the old fashioned way sometimes on cap
closer to the fiscal cliff. >> this offer reinforces what my belief has been the whole time. which is boehner is going to have to allow a vote that doesn't get a majority of the majority, that is basically built on democratic votes and a few -- enough republicans to get to 218 in the house, not an offer where the president really risks losing a lot of democrats and builds off republican votes. the president won the election. i think the president thinks he can build that majority. but boehner's going to have to believe that it's worth it to say to his party, we're going to vote on something that a lot of us don't like. he's going to have to vote for it. and that's the kind of thing we had with the t.a.r.p. vote. it's the kind of thing we've had with some other tough votes. but nas a different kind of coalition than the president and boehner together saying we're each going to offend the base of our party. there are going to be some democrats offended, but it's clear the president thinks he's going to get a democratic bill on this issue through the congress. >> i want to say this, a
will push back on president obama's demand for tax hikes on the rich when it comes to the fiscal cliff. but treasury secretary timothy geithner says the white house will not give in. >> no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. remember it's only 2%. >> geithner adds the obama administration is, quote, absolutely prepared to go off the cliff, if necessary. joining me now is van jones, cnn contributor and former obama administration official. good morning. >> god morning to you. >> so, van, i guess my first question that's eatsy for geithner to say, we're perfectly willing to go off the fiscal cliff. that means a tax hike on middle class americans and maybe some of them are thinking this morning i'm not really so happy geithner said that. >> it might have been inartful for him to say it the way he said it. i think he is making a very important point, which is that the american people did vote. they voted for the one thing the president said very clearly, which is that tax rates would go up on the wealthiest. it's an
the fiscal cliff. it included $1.6 trillion in new revenue from tax hikes on the rich. the white house is giving $400 billion in savings from medicare and entitlements. there's also a request for at least $50 billion in infrastructure spending, mortgage relief, and other stimulus measures. none of this is a surprise to the republicans. this is what president obama campaigned on. it's also what republicans have been presented behind closed doors for weeks. "politico" reported on the deal taking shape behind the scenes. it includes most of the same details the white house has in its proposal. according to "politico" house republican leaders recognize president obama holds the high cards and the public is likely to blame republicans if negotiations blow up and the new year begins with a fiscal disaster. the facts didn't stop speaker boehner from claiming the white house is holding up negotiations. >> majority leader and i just had a meeting with the treasury secretary. it was frank, and it was direct. i was hopeful we'd see a specific plan for cutting spending. >> the treasury secretary's
over the last couple weeks. going over the fiscal cliff is serious business and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it. and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> reporter: you had senate republican leader mitch mcconnell say after a meeting with geithner that he considered this is a step backward. and so all the rhetoric, all the talk here on capitol hill sounds pretty pessimistic at this point, guys. bill: we heard a little bit from chris van hollen. what is the latest reaction from democrats to republicans mike? melissa: democrats say if you don't like the president's plan, republicans where is your plan? where exactly are you going to generate more revenue. they're trying to draw the republicans out to put specifics out there in terms of what cuts they want to make to entitlements, feeling like that may hurt republican argument. bottom line, house democratic leader nancy pelosi says she thinks republicans will eventually see the light. melissa: why am i confident? because it is the right thing to do. the american people expect and deserve this to happen. it
. >> wow, looks bad. ooh. >>> this morning, less than a month now before the big federal fiscal cliff. and we have some details on a war of word between treasury secretary tim geithner and house speaker john boehner. we will also update you on where the negotiations stand. right now by all accounts it is deadlocked right now with the clock continuing to tick down. >> a little testy. a little heated there. >>> and later this half hour, this year's gift wrap champ is here with her expert advice. find out how to wrap the most difficult presents, including a guitar, a candle, which is always difficult around the holidays to give. hope you don't give jenny a candle. >> i will light her fire, but not giving her a candle. you like to wrap. did you learn anything? >> i am horrible at wrapping, but i wanted to learn and get better. so i actually learned some great tips. >> take it to the lovely lady in the mall. >> i will wrap you. >> safety first. wrap it up. >>> but first, 62,000 football fans filled arrowhead stadium in kansas city the day after jovan belcher killed his girlfriend and then
. walking-around money. walking-around money. >>> talking about big cash, let's get to the fiscal cliff. some developing news this morning. "politico" hassen e an exclusiv report that president obama and representative boehner had a "curt" telephone conversation. speak speaker boehner says he wants to move his position on tax rates but the president won't budge. he told him, if he has an alternative plan, he ought to put that forward rather than focusing on entitlements. the white house will send tim geithner to capitol hill for a meeting. yesterday the president met with ceos including at&t, goldman sachs, coca-cola and caterpillar, many of whom said after the meeting they emerged hopeful a deal could be struck to avoid the fiscal cliff. in another meeting with middle-class americans, president obama said he believes the framework for a deal could be in place before christmas. >> and i'll go anywhere, and i'll do whatever it takes to get this done. it's too important for washington to screw this up. now's the time for us to work on what we all agree to, which is let's keep middle-class
's one person. another writes in, what are you willing to compromise with the gop to get this fiscal cliff stuff done? i think president obama preparing to answer some tough questions from voters. over the weekend house speaker john boehner said these negotiations are nowhere. jay carney disagrees with that assessment. now phone calls at this point between president obama and congressional leaders, but the white house says the talks will be ongoing over the next several days, tamron. >> thank you. the president's q and a on twitter comes days after republicans flat-out rejected his opening bid in negotiations. house speaker john boehner appeared on one sunday morning talk show to see the president's proposal was not in his opinion a proposal at all. >> i was flabbergasted and said, you can't be serious. i just have never seen anything like it. we have seven weeks between election day and the end of the year, and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> okay. >> treasury secretary tim geithner appeared on five separate sunday morning talk shows. he says it's the go
boehner described his reaction when the president presented its plan for the fiscal cliff. > >> i said you can't be serious. we have 7 weeks went election and the end of the year and three those weeks have been wasted. bill: flabbergasted, rich. wasting time. three weeks gone by. >> well, yeah, i think this offer speaks more to a desire on the part of the white house to break and humiliate republicans than it does to have a serious negotiation. on the other hand way these things work. you can pretty much go to sleep until right at the end, then it's days before it's goark yaitd. but it wouldn't surprise me if we do go over the cliff. they should pass an extension of all these tax cuts, make it clear they want to keep them for everyone including have much for the middle class. john boehner should say we passed this out of the house. let's see harry reid and the democrats pass this out of the senate. bill: i get the impression both sides are miles apart from the deal. and i'm told by smart people i'm dead wrong on that. are you of mind a or mind b, rich? >> i don't think there is a deal sitt
, it is. but i think it's outrageous. i think this brinksmanship about the budget and the fiscal cliff is all just fine. i don't want to go over the cliff. i think it would be irresponsible. >> does the president want to go over? we got to listen to all the republicans and the conservative media today are saying president obama wants to go over the fiscal cliff because then taxes go up across the board. and then it's got to be done retroactively. >> which is not what the president wants, but there's a big difference between this fiscal cliff and the full faith and credit of the united states. the american government has never defaulted on its debt. and now there are some, not the majority of republicans but some on the extreme of the republican party and they seem to be in control, who seem to want to default on our debt. that's crazy. if they cannot be entrusted with the full faith and credit of the united states, they should not have that leverage. >> paul, where were the overtures though? where were the overtures with this deal that was presented? i mean, listen, you don't have to b
and the election wasn't over and we didn't have the prospect of going over the fiscal cliff. today the house republicans in a big development put out a plan and i am sure it is not on its face acceptable to the president and the democrats here but interestingly it has the same total number of savings and tax revenues as the president does over 10 years, $2.2 trillion. that is a lot more spending and entitlement reform in the president plan -- republican land and the democratic plan but now they can fill things in and the president has to be at the table to close the deal. he has the mandate to do it. >>neil: part of the mandate means both sides should give a little. obviously the republican plan has a debt commission feel to it but beside that i am wondering if it and tough and i know you are leaving the senate and i have always said, and i am not blowing you smoke you are one who tries to find areas of agreement and move the ball forward and we can be dogmatic all we want but in the end, you have reminded me, senator, it is about getting things done and right now washington is the hatfields
or pessimist when it comes to the question of whether we go over the fiscal cliff? >> i think president obama loves this country and is a patriot and boehner is a patriot and i believe they will work out a deal. if they don't make a deal, 28 million americans will pay alternative minimum tax and families will have their taxes raised $2,000 more and give more in this bad economy. washington, d.c. insider i am the optimist they will work out a deal. jon: she is going with the glass half full approach. i like that. angela mcglowan. >> thank you, jon. jenna: epic journey, not the fiscal cliff, that is epic journey. this epic journey is breaking the boundaries of human endurance. running seven ultramarathons on seven continents in seven days? why did he do it? turns out he was doing good at the same time he was running. we'll speak to him live about his ad venture next. w way. it's called bankamerideals, from bank of america. i choose the cash back deals in my mobile or online banking. i just use my bank of america debit or credit card when i pay. and i get as much as 15% cash back -- put into my
happens, this fiscal cliff as we've been calling it, it will impact their state's economies. according to the ppew report, these states rely on federal money. things like education would be impacted. they're here to put pressure not only on the president but lawmakers up on the hill to get this deal done. >> takes place in about an hour. dan loathian, reporting from th white house. >>> nearly 15 million households rely on food stamps. republicans say it's far too many. it's government assistance out of control. certainly a major theme during the republican primary. >> president obama has been historically the most effective food stamp president in american histor history. >> in light of the continuing controversy over food stamps, new jersey democratic mayor cory book booker will live on food stamps saying, quote, nutrition is not a responsibility of the government. >> as you mentioned this all sort of began as a back and forth on twitter. we'll get to that in detail in a moment. first i want you to look at something that mayor booker posted on his twitter account. it is a grocery stor
and the fiscal cliff fight when you will have all the leverage. megyn: simon? >> in the rasmussen poll that came out today the republicans lost 10 points since the election in the congressional generic fight. they are losing this economic argument right now. if they pull what mark is saying, you are going to see the republican party's numbers in the 20s. they have no leverage on this thing. >> not going to happen. megyn: we'll leave it at that. thank you both. just ahead. a much more somber note. new warning about the sarin gas threat in syria. city drivers claim a class action that the traffic cameras are actually rigged. soot whole world is watching and the president of the united states made clear there will be consequences if the assad regime makes a terrible mistake by using these chemical weapons on their own people. megyn: that was leon panetta with a warning that the united states and our allies will not tolerate a chemical attack by syria. we got reports that they were mixing the chemical weapons earlier this week. focusing new attention on saddam hussein's 1988 massacre of the kurds. t
to stick around to work on the fiscal cliff problems? what was his response to you? >> reporter: well, he's staying here. he says he's not going anywhere. he's ready, willing and able to meet with the president, to talk to the president, to negotiate any time the president is going to respond. but the issue is still that, i mean, from where i'm standing, i can look at the house floor and i can see the dark doors closed. they're not here. they're not voting for the next two days and it is only wednesday. so the house of representatives is gone. and what i asked the speaker is whether the optics looks kind of bad since the fiscal cliff is just a couple of -- a couple of weeks away and they're not in town. he did not answer. he said he'll be here. other republican sources we talked to say it is what it is. it is the reality and the reality is they don't have anything to put on the floor to vote on right now. and they're in a waiting game for the president. and i think actually at the end of the day, having them go home, having them sort of stream down the capital steps, helps illustrate the
, what's known as the fiscal cliff. and they're talking about the economy as well with the senate majority leader, harry reid, and house speaker, john boehner. this after a 90-minute meeting with president obama at the white house this morning where they called for a quick resolution. the governors spoke to reporters at the white house for 15 minutes after that meeting and we'll show you as much as we can until the house gavels in in just a few minutes. >> well, goorn, everybody. i'm jack, the chair of the national governors association, the governor of delaware, joined by governor fallen of oklahoma, she's the vice chair -- governor fallin of oklahoma, she's the vice chair. the governor of arkansas. we are three democrats and three republicans. we just had what i would say was a very good meeting with the president. we came in part to make sure that the voices and the issues that we face as governors in states are heard and considered as part of the discussions going on here in washington. the president was very open to that. said we would continue to have a seat at the table. we
, we know you'll be on it. >>> we're going to turn to the latest on the fiscal cliff. just 26 days before everyone's taxes go up and programs get cut. jon karl is following it all. a small breakthrough yesterday, president obama and house speaker john boehner got on the phone. >> reporter: that may not sound like much, george. but it's the first time the two men have spoken in a week. and what may be the most significant sign of progress, neither side talked about what was said on the call, an indication they may be serious about negotiating in private. >> we're starting to see some republicans concede that tax rates on the wealthy, at least, are going to have to go up. the president has another rock-hard bottom line. that's an increase in the u.s. debt limit, as well. >> reporter: that's right. republicans even top republicans, say the tax rates are going to almost certainly go up. but on this question of the debt ceiling, the government reaches the limit of how much money it can borrow in february. republicans say they will exact a price for that. they want spending cuts, if they
would be so irresponsible as to threat on take the american people off this fiscal cliff. plunge us back into recession and put a lot of people out of work. so this is very disappointing. and i wish we weren't where we are, but it takes two parties to negotiate in good faith and frankly the president has been awol. megyn: do you believe the president want to go off the fiscal cliff? >> by judging from his behavior, i'm beginning to believe he does. and that i think would be a profoundy irresponsible act. economists of all stripes have told us we'll be plunged into a recession. we don't know in light of this fragile economy whether it would be a small dip or whether it would spiral out of control. so it's just something we should not be toying with. that's why it's so discouraging to see the president and secretary geithner increase their demand and not come closer together given the fact our side has put revenue on the table, something we don't want to do. we know we don't have just a taxing problem, we have a spending problem and we see no commensurate action from the president or his p
-called fiscal cliff. president obama meets with bipartisan groups of governors about the problem today. the meeting a day after house speaker jonathan boehner laid a republican plan to solve the crisis on the table and calls for $800 billion in higher taxes revenue and does not increase taxes on wealthy americans. the white house is rejecting the offer, saying any deal must include an end to tax cuts for families making over $250,000. >>> and the senate has approved a new u.s. commander for the war in afghanistan. he's marine corporal general joseph doneford and replaces general john al llen, nominatedo head forces in europe. allen's nomination on hold because of his involvement in the sex scandal that brought down former cia director david petraeus. >>> in foreign news, new intelligence reports, indicate syria's government may be preparing to use chemical and biological weapons against the rebels. in response though, the u.s. and its allies are considering military options. here's abc's martha raddatz. >> reporter: the latest intelligence is alarming. officials telling abc news the u.
sounds] >> if the president really wants to avoid sending the economy over the fiscal cliff he's done nothing to demonstrate it. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we're talking about in terms of actual legislation to increase revenues it's magic beans and fairy dust. [farting sounds] >> stephanie: all right. >> fairy dust goes very well with bourbon. >> stephanie: republicans were quick to say that boehner's plan was attracting criticism from the right particularly from jim demint of south carolina, tea party leader and as such, represented more of a compromise than obama's stance. uh no! nice try. demint said boehner's plan will destroy american jobs and allow politicians in washington to spend more. oh, please we're not falling for this. they think if they criticize the plan, oh, well it must be a good compromise then. nice try! 29 minutes after the hour. spongebob squarepants tom kenny, our buddy our pal next on "the stephanie miller show." you know who's coming on to me now? you know the kind of guys w
're getting more reaction now from the white house to the fiscal cliff counteroffer that house republicans have put forward today. let's go back to our chief white house correspondent, jessica yellin. she has new information for us. jessica, we heard white house's blistering public response to speaker boehner's counterproposal. but will they sit down to actually negotiate where things stand now? >> reporter: well, wolf, in response to this offer, they are not going to sit down and negotiate. they will be open to talking. they will be open to receiving phone calls. but, you know, the white house has said that if speaker boehner presents a counteroffer in response to what secretary geithner presented last week, they will begin negotiations, they think this is not a serious offer and so they say this will not be the start of those negotiations. >> what is the one thing the white house hates the most about this republican counterproposal? >> reporter: the fact that it does not raise rates on the wealthy. they say that it actually would reduce rates on the wealthy. they argue that it also doesn
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